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Dan Cathy Quote



"Well, guilty as charged. We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that. We intend to stay the course. We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

Dan Cathy
CEO of Chik-Fil-A
(who donated millions to "Family Ministries")

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mort_83
Jul. 18th, 2012 01:51 am (UTC)
I feel for any LGBT people born into this family. What horror.
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(Anonymous)
Jul. 20th, 2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
You're both twisting what he was quoted as saying. Typical libs. Do you find yourselves "accepting" everything you see in society? If you say "yes", then you lie, and have no credibility. You'll need to try harder to make him a "demon", because I don't see it, and the majority of society doesn't see it that way. Continue enjoying your gov't-sponsored-conditioning.
abillings
Jul. 26th, 2012 05:21 am (UTC)
Anon
I'm not sure what it is you believe the two commenters to be "twisting". Can you elaborate?

I think they're simply reacting honestly, and from their hearts, about Mr. Cathy's belief system. There's not that much of an elaboration there. Just what they feel and what they believe.
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(Anonymous)
Jul. 25th, 2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
Dan Cathy's quote
Thank you for taking a Biblical stand and realizing Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
Trust you keep standing on the Word of God.
Peggy
abillings
Jul. 26th, 2012 05:30 am (UTC)
Re: Dan Cathy's quote
Peggy

Thank you for writing and sharing your views. I appreciate it. And although I know it's just a TV show (and an old one at that), if you have the time, I'd love for you to watch this "West Wing" episode. Not only is it a great performance by Sheen, but it quotes some interesting chapters and verses from the Bible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1-ip47WYWc



I've always wondered what exactly we were supposed to be following when we "Follow The Bible". People seem to pick and choose, and I say: if you're going to follow it to the letter, then you must follow all of it. Not just the parts you like.

Not too many years ago, there was a man named McCarthy who used the Bible to seek out communism in the United States senate. It's also been used to silence women when they wanted the vote, and Blacks when they wanted their freedom. The argument's getting a bit old, and a bit worn out.

I respect your decision to abide by what you believe in your heart to be true and just, but we live in a country where you don't get to force that belief on everyone else. Please keep that in mind when you speak about Jesus and what you think he said.

Thanks again for writing.
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(Anonymous)
Jul. 25th, 2012 11:46 pm (UTC)
Well done Mr. Cathy! Thank you for standing up to the bigotry and bullying of the radical left wing.
abillings
Jul. 26th, 2012 05:38 am (UTC)
Anon
The bigotry you may be sensing is reactionary. And I agree with you, I definitively think there is bigotry when it comes to extreme Christianity.

Here's what I mean:

There's a woman in our building who's one of the funniest, kindest and most joyful people I've met in a long, long time. She always asks how my wife is doing and how I'm doing. Just yesterday, we were chatting in the foyer, and she started asking me about my smoking. It's a terrible addiction, and one I'm trying my hardest to give up. She was very sweet and very understanding. She said addiction comes from Satan, and that can be fought and won. I told her I didn't believe in Satan. To which she said:

"That's okay. I'll pray for you anyway."

I asked if she was a Christian and she said yes. I then asked why she didn't have a problem with my marriage, and she said:

"God doesn't judge love, and I'm no better than God."

She's a lovely, kind and gentle woman.

The Christians that I know, that I've met, and that have met me, are wonderful people. They don't judge me, and they don't want to stop me from loving who I love, nor do they want my rights taken away. They believe that God is love, and vice-versa. They leave the final judgment to the Ultimate Judge.

I guess I just feel that if every Christian would take that attitude, there might be less bigotry towards them.

Just a suggestion.

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(Anonymous)
Jul. 26th, 2012 09:14 pm (UTC)
He also said "While my family and I believe in the Biblical definition of marriage, we love and respect anyone who disagrees,”

That "family" that one person thanks God (how ironic) they were not born into also has given away tens of millions to children's and is one of the biggest supporters of adoption in the country.

They have not discriminated against customers or employees on any count including sexual preference, but rather have stated their beliefs.

So boycott of you like, but stop short of denigration.
abillings
Jul. 28th, 2012 05:50 am (UTC)
Anons
I think what both of you may be forgetting is that Mr. Cathy gave millions to a group who's spent years taking down bullying laws for LGBT people, who've kicked our people out of churches, and who've spent many hours picketing, speaking out, and marching against Equality. Mr. Cathy threw his own hat in the political ring, he wasn't dragged there. And when he did that, he alienated not only the gay population, but our straight supporters as well....numbers which grow year by year.

America is undergoing a social change, and that's never easy. For anyone. But when a public company decides to back an organization that steps on the rights of others, those people have the right to fight back. This isn't a case of a simple statement made by a private citizen in the privacy of their own home, or at a dinner party, or even congregating in the public square, this is a company with many legs and many supporters, some of whom, are gay. And now we know where they stand: On the side of inequality. And so having this information, we make our voices heard.

Like any good American.

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Bob Williamson
Jul. 27th, 2012 03:26 am (UTC)
Support of the Family = Hate Speech?
If Democrats are outraged over Chick-fil-A's attack on homosexuals (because it supports the advancement of families), shouldn't they be equally outraged over the NAACP's attack on white people (because it supports the advancement of colored people)?

But of course the issue is free speech -- even if someone were offended by Dan Cathy's statement, if the government has the power to punish a business for expressing an opinion that someone official or bureaucrat disapproves of, then what does the First Amendment mean?
abillings
Jul. 28th, 2012 06:05 am (UTC)
Re: Support of the Family = Hate Speech?
I agree with you. Yes. We should absolutely be disgusted with some of what the NAACP stands for.

The issue here is only partly about free speech though. Remember, you can't have it both ways. Look at my blog at Tony Perkins quote about Google needing to stay neutral in the marriage equality debate, but cheer leading for Chick-fil-a.

And lets' be clear: we're not really talking about "Pro Family" organizations are we? Name me one thing in the last decade NOM (The National Organization for Marriage) has done for the "family"? Picketing and organizing against marriage equality is about Homosexuality and the fear of men loving other men and having sex with them. It has nothing to do with "the family".

If they wanted to protect the family, they'd be much more concerned with the high divorce rate, or children's care in their own home, or home schooling, or single parent families, instead of recruiting innocent, ignorant people through propaganda and lies in order to try and squelch the equality movement.

Luckily, it's futile, and even they are beginning to understand that. Look at one of the head's of the Republican party and his recent speech about allowing ALL Americans equal protection. Gay Americans are Americans, and you don't get to go after them under the guise of care and concern for the American family. That's what's called A Hate Group. They are motivated not by love of all people, but instead, of hatred of a certain type of people.

So Mr. Cathy's speech is certainly free. He can believe whatever he wants, no one cares. But when he donated to The Family Mission, he bought his way into the political arena. And there he'll stay.

Forever.

His decision.
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(Anonymous)
Jul. 27th, 2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
In God we trust!
I LOVE THE ABILITY TO STAND ON OUR BELIEFS AND HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO SO! To say there is hate in his statement is complete ignorance, there is a belief in the WORD OF GOD! Our country was founded on Christianity, those who choose to continue that belief, are as entitled, as those whom choose not too! I don't hate others for their views, I would assume no one would hate me for mine! I love and adore all individuals, however I stand on a belief given to me by God, on the definition of marriage. Because I don't agree with my husband on his choices of sports teams does not mean I hate him, it means we do not agree, I happily agree to disagree! God Bless you all and know you are all loved!
abillings
Jul. 28th, 2012 05:42 am (UTC)
Re: In God we trust!
You know, I agree with you. The word "Hate" has really been thrown around far to easily for me.

I don't believe you hate me. I certainly don't hate you. How could we hate each other? We don't know enough about each other to feel that strongly one way or another. So, let's leave Hate out of this completely.

The main point here is not what you believe or what I believe. The point is: What is Law? That's the question. When do our spiritual beliefs coincide with the laws of our country? That's the precipice on which our country stands at the moment, and all of us are struggling with it.

And so...unfortunately, you're dealing with a new generation that couldn't care less about whether gay people fall in love or don't. And this is where the tide turns. Statistics are on the side of change, they always have been. That's why we're the greatest country on earth. We change. We grow. We accept each other and we keep going forward. That's why we're Americans.

And one last thing, your husband's decision to watch sports on TV, has nothing to do with who I fall in love with. One is a decision, the other is an affair of the heart. You must know the difference, I'm assuming you love your husband more than anything else in the world and would move heaven and earth for him. I know I would for my wife. I know a lot of your information has to do with our sex lives, but we want to be with the person we love. We can already have sex with whomever we want.

So can you, for that matter.

We're talking about a legal commitment between two consenting adults, because they want to share their lives, their hearts, their property, and they want to be heard. To deny a population those rights is not only sad, it's undignified.

Soon, you'll have to live your gay neighbors and relatives in a peaceful, kind and accepting way. You don't ever have to like it. And you don't ever have to understand it. That's okay. We don't understand you either.

Think about your own life for just a moment: You choose God, you fell in love with your husband. Just be with that.

Thank you for writing and for being so kind and gentle. I appreciate it.

(Anonymous)
Jul. 28th, 2012 01:50 pm (UTC)
The Bible; self-righteousness; judge not
The quote from Mr. Cathy represents a stance and spirit so far from Jesus Christ's life, love and example. I do not even know where to begin. The only true Biblical reference to homosexuality is in Leviticus, so i have included an excerpt of a letter to Dr Laura Schlessinger regarding this issue as follows to illustrate my point:
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.  Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
(Anonymous)
Aug. 3rd, 2012 02:21 pm (UTC)
Re: The Bible; self-righteousness; judge not
Read the New Testament... not just the Old. They work together as one. You've clearly missed the point of what Jesus did for us by dying for us. As it reads... He came to fulfill the law... the laws which you've pointed out. You should also research the original text to find out what word was actually used. Many of the greek and hebrew words can't be translated properly in english. Or, different words have been translated to the same word even though they mean completely different things.

With the sacrifice that was Jesus, we are no longer under the rule of those laws. We have been spared God's wrath because Jesus took it all at the cross.
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(Anonymous)
Jul. 30th, 2012 07:56 pm (UTC)
I keep seeing this point being made about the United States being founded on Christianity. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, Creator, Divine, or God," appear nowhere in the Constitution. The founders were very precise and particular about the wording in that document. It's no oversight that they left those words out. There's nothing in the Constitution that's left for inference. I don't get where the idea of a "Christian Nation" comes from.
(Anonymous)
Aug. 3rd, 2012 02:14 pm (UTC)
Read the Pre-amble please...
The word Creator is used in the pre-amble to the constitution. But, you should realize that most of the men that wrote our founding documents where Christians and they used the principles taught in the Bible in what they wrote. I wouldn't say we're Christian nation perse, but America was built on Christian values and principles... much like CFA.
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(Anonymous)
Aug. 6th, 2012 01:31 am (UTC)
Dan Cathy never mentioned gays...
Why didn't you post the whole conversation which by the way was an interview about his religious views by a Christian Newspaper. If it's too much trouble to post the truth, I'll help you out...

“We don’t claim to be a Christian business,” Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, “There is no such thing as a Christian business.”

“That got my attention,” Cathy said. Roach went on to say, “Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me.”

“In that spirit … [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are,” Cathy added. “But as an organization we can operate on biblical principles. So that is what we claim to be. [We are] based on biblical principles, asking God and pleading with God to give us wisdom on decisions we make about people and the programs and partnerships we have. And He has blessed us.”

And the marriage thing?

The company invests in Christian growth and ministry through its WinShape Foundation (WinShape.com). The name comes from the idea of shaping people to be winners. It began as a college scholarship and expanded to a foster care program, an international ministry, and a conference and retreat center modeled after the Billy Graham Training Center at the Cove.

“That morphed into a marriage program in conjunction with national marriage ministries,” Cathy added.

Some have opposed the company’s support of the traditional family. “Well, guilty as charged,” said Cathy when asked about the company’s position. “We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. …

“We are very much committed to that,” Cathy emphasized. “We intend to stay the course,” he said. “We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”

abillings
Aug. 6th, 2012 07:44 am (UTC)
Re: Dan Cathy never mentioned gays...
Thank you for posting the entire quote. I hadn't heard all of it, and I appreciate it.

I wasn't trying to lie, I was simply posting what I found. I don't think calling me a liar makes much sense, nor does it really serve a healthy conversation.

But thanks for the quote anyway.
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